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Performative Bafflement's avatar

I generally agree with your overall stance and your arguments, but you haven't really addressed any objections. You and I approach this from an "abundance mindset," where more people and choices and matching is a good thing, but people who object and don't agree with the underlying arguments and assumptions approach it from a stability mindset, where they want to ensure that they keep the things and advantages they've clawed from reality with long effort and strenuousness.

Their objections would go something like this:

1. More competition - the world is already a vicious Red Queen's Race - adding 2x, 5x, 10x more people just makes it that much more competitive and difficult to succeed. The arms race for Ivy schools ALREADY starts at "we need to get precious Jayden into the right pre-school and then grind furiously and non-stop for 18 years, or their chances at getting into Harvard are *ruined!*"

Now turn that up 10x. Are people happier in this society?

What about housing? Already in dreadfully short supply anyone wants to live - if you had the (mis)pleasure of buying real estate during Covid, you got to directly experience bidding wars going $50k, $100k, $120k all cash with no inspection or contingencies, over the asking price. Imagine that 10x, in any city people can actually want to live or get a real job.

2. Status is relative - if you add a lot more people, and there's a lot more geniuses and elites and athletes and truly competitive and successful people, there will be more people who are unhappy because they compare themselves and can't measure up. You also make the relative competition for status much worse, because you're competing against more people, who have legitimate advantages *I* (the median dumbass) won't have!

3. What about the environmental impact? We're already cooking the planet, and having kids is the most environmentally harmful decision anyone can individually choose. Now you want to 2,5,10x this impact?? Monster!

Etc. I mean, like I said, I don't really worry about these, but I'm basically elite already, and think I'd hold onto most of my advantages, and get further advantages with better matching and employees and whatever. If you're talking to regular people, it's a much harder sell.

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Lura's avatar

I read this piece hoping to find something persuasive, but coming from an ecology background, I find the points made for increasing population to be a bit out of touch. It also relies heavily on the classic “technology will save us” approach.

The study of population dynamics for a species in an ecosystem does conclude there is optimal population size—and the consequences of exceeding your optimal look like: increased competition, hunger, disease, etc.

Moreover, the notion that more people means more geniuses, researchers…my first thought was, if the future world needs researchers, why not just build our smaller society into one where more people have access to high quality STEM education. You do not need more people, you just need the conditions to allow the people here to flourish.

And ultimately, this is where we diverge. More people doesn’t mean more “soul mates” (that’s an antiquated and unscientific notion of relationships that I think you’re using as purely an emotional argument), thai food, and bauhaus architecture—the goal should be quality of life. Your idea presents a sort of brutal math, seeking only the exceptional at the cost of the bell curve.

With fewer people, more resources can be invested into each person. By allowing individuals to reach their potential, society and the economy will benefit.

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